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By Debjani Chakravarty
June 4, 2007 9:25 AM

With India and China emerging as economic powerhouses, there is a new reality in the global financial market. Digital communications have not only blurred national boundaries but also spawned a global labor market with unprecedented mobility.

The H-1B visa program is an example of that. It allows U.S. companies to hire high-skilled professionals from other countries for up to six years. With an H-1B visa, college-educated professionals can work here in a specialty occupation, such as engineering, computer programming, software development and other high-skill areas.

The program has led to a fierce debate between those who foresee prosperity through imported skilled labor and those who predict a grim future for displaced U.S. professionals. Supporters include employers in the information technology and other specialty industries that routinely pressure Congress to expand the H-1B visa program.
Currently, the program is capped at 65,000 visas but proponents would like to see the cap raised to 150,000 or removed altogether.

Opponents range from professional organizations, such as the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers USA (IEEE-USA), to anti-immigration policy groups, such as the Center for Immigration Studies. These groups maintain the program displaces U.S. professionals and brings down the salaries for all those in that particular field. IEEE-USA's Web site strongly supports capping the annual number of H-1B visas at 65,000 and using the income from fees to train displaced American professionals.

A study released in May from the Center for Immigration Studies said the H-1B program in many instances fails to pay foreign workers the prevailing wage as required, with 90 percent of visa holders earning less than the U.S. median wage for that position.
"The findings in this report clearly demonstrate that the legal definition of the prevailing wage requirement does not ensure H-1B workers are paid the actual market prevailing wage," it reported.

The program's popularity among employers is no joke.

Within hours on the first day the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) started accepting applications this year, 150,000 applications were filed. That's more than double the yearly cap of 65,000 visas. For the first time, the USIS will use a lottery system to issue visas.

The high-tech labor demands can't be filled domestically because fewer U.S. students are attending graduate school for engineering, said Partha Dasgupta, an associate professor of computer science and engineering at Arizona State University. With an undergraduate degree they can find a well-paying job without spending the extra time in graduate school.

U.S. Census Bureau data confirm that for Americans over 25, about a quarter have completed college, yet only 3 percent finish their master's degree and 2 percent their Ph.D. This shortage creates a scarcity of technical professionals.

In addition, U.S. high school students don't have a solid foundation in math, said Dawn McLaren, a research economist at JPMorgan Chase Economic Outlook Center at Arizona State University.

That reality is reflected in the large number of students who take remedial math courses in college. A recent study by the National Assessment of Educational Progress found that 40 percent of high school seniors failed to perform at the basic level on a national math test.

Staunch opponents like Tancredo believe that the H-1B program will depress salaries in highly skilled occupations, making them less attractive to Americans. Eventually the number of American students pursuing science and engineering careers will drop further, leading to more unemployment and under-employment. This would erode the middle class -- and with it, America's strength, moral values, national pride and integrity, opponents say.

But not all see it as a zero sum game.

Bradford Kidd, a director of information technology and services for a Phoenix-based software company, said the H-1B program can be a needed benefit for employers, as long as it is used in moderation.

"There are situations where there are not enough skills or labor for a position," he said. "But you probably don't want to flood the market with people who would essentially dilute the salary pool. That's a situation where employers gain and employees lose."

India native Uday, an H-1B visa holder and project manager at an IT company in Phoenix who asked that his last name not be used, said that argument doesn't make sense.

"Compared to the total number of the all-American technical workforce and the number of jobs available, the 65,000 cap on H-1B visas is a ridiculously small number for foreign workers and can't be a threat to the American economy."

A IEEE-USA report estimated a total of 5.8 million technical jobs in the U.S. in 2006.
According to Uday, American companies find it financially advantageous to hire professionals from Southeast Asia because they'll often work for less than the $65,000 median annual wage in the IT industry. English-speaking engineers in Asian countries are willing to accept the lower wages in exchange for global opportunities that expose them to new work cultures and technologies. And the wages are still high compared with what they'd make in their home countries.

It's really a win-win situation for both the employer and the employee, said Uday, who recently applied for a green card.

While some H-1B holders love the U.S. lifestyle, others are keen to return home after the stipulated six years. Uday said the standard of living in Asia has improved along with its fast-growing economy.

"India and China today have global cities with the look and feel and amenities comparable to any American city," he said. "I've stopped thinking in terms of geographies anymore. Tomorrow I might want to be a part of the action in China, or the day after, of Singapore."

The scarcity of highly skilled professionals doesn't exist only in the realm of software jobs. S. K. Ghosh, president of a structural engineering consulting firm in Chicago, says that even fields that aren't as "hot," such as seismic construction, need employees with specialized knowledge. More than 70 percent of Ghosh's employees are engineers from Asia who came to the U.S. for their doctorate degree.

For the past two years, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates has been campaigning to remove the cap on H-1B visas -- or at least to raise it. In an interview with David S. Broder of The Washington Post, Gates said, "It is kind of ironic to have someone graduate from Stanford Computer Science Department and there's not enough H-1B visas, so they have to go back to India."

While individuals from Gates to Ghosh share this view, opposition is brewing against the H-1B program.

"I went to a church in Scottsdale [Ariz.] with my colleague's family, and this person kept talking about how non-believers in the form of H-1B visa holders were swarming the country," said Ahmad. "What's interesting is how my colleague later tried to defend this viewpoint. He told me that the scarcity of skilled professionals in the United States is artificial."

The controversy over the H-1B visa program isn't likely to abate anytime soon. That means workers like Ahmad might have to live with the uneasy feeling that they're not welcome in this country.

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You cannot discriminate in the hiring by race, creed, or NATIONALITY.

When Indian companies only consider h-1b candidates (and then only from from India), for jobs based in the United States, it is a clear case of discrimination.

Prejudice in hiring decisions is a crime in the United States, it violates Federal Civil Rights laws. When companies are found to have violated such laws the punishment can include criminal sentences.

The main question is, if there is a job in the United States, do Indian IT companies (that are h-1b dependent) even consider a non-Indian candidate?

So far all evidence, and all the numbers point to a the startling fact, U.S. engineering candidates are barred from applying for U.S. jobs created by Indian IT companies.

Some of these Indian IT companies have U.S. staff that is 90% or more Indian, and almost all here on h-1b visas.

In open testimony before congress, a U.S. Citizen and job applicant tried to get an interview with for an open position in the United States. She was told that she could not apply for the job, just (and only because) because she could not be hired under an h-1b Visa.

Congress is merely asking questions, and India is protesting way-to-loudly. Something aweful (a complete disregard for Civil Rights) is being coverd up by the whole Indian IT industry and the Indian government.

There is no equality in the hiring practices of these h-1b dependent Indian IT companies, either you are Indian or you are not, that is the hiring criteria for an Engineer at an h-1b dependent Indian IT company for a job based in the United States.

This clearly is discrimination, this is prejudice, this is wrong, and against U.S. law.

The american people have the right to know when companies are destroying the very fabric of our society, by planting the seeds of racism, prejudice, and discrimination.

India threatens us with trade sanctions unless allow their companies to continue to discrimate. Call their bluff, Indian needs trade with the U.S. more than the reverse. Further what good is trade, if it leads to riots, protest, and civil unrest. Discrimination, more than any other, is something that we all agree needs to be eliminated.

The Senators are merely asking questions. Clearly though, we need to subpoena these companies. This is the biggest case of open-discrimination, bigotry, and prejudice in the United States today.

Karmal Nath (the Indian Commerce Minister) and NASSCOM (the Indian Service Companies group) knows Indian IT companies discriminate against U.S. citizens. They know that that Indian IT companies practice discrimination in the United States. And they are trying to black-mail the U.S. into letting it continue.

Jake,

You are dead wrong that Indian companies are violating our non-discrimination laws.

The H-1B law is cleverly crafted to make you think you are protected when you are not.

With respect to non-discrimination laws when they hire Indians only they discriminating against you on the basis of immigration status. Turns out that is not in the non-discrimination laws. You immigration status is native born American by the way. No law prevents anyone from hiring a non-immigrant visa holder over a native born American. See the Department of Labor's own web site http://www.dol.gov/_sec/stratplan/strat_plan_2006-2011.pdf for the following stark reality:

"H-1B workers may be hired even when a qualified U.S. worker wants the job, and a U.S. worker can be displaced from the job in favor of the foreign worker."

That has always been the H-1B law. It is only recently that government acknowledged it. When you see industry claims to the contrary they are referring to a small number of firms found guilty of abusing the law and part of their punishment is the have to show no American available for a few months.

To see how easy it is to get approval check out Form ETA 9035 at http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/eta9035v50.pdf. Note the "Other" under Item 4. The DOL has never in the history of the H-1B rejected an application based on the "prevailing wage" shown on this form. One wit even applied for hiring programmers and put a wage below the legally required minimum wage. DOL approved the application. What employers typically do is state a wage for limited experience and then hires someone with a lot of experience. Employers save about one third of what they would pay an American. The "prevailing wage" is not what an American in the same job would earn. The H-1B law has loopholes in it that allow companies to use them as cheap labor. Over the six years of the H-1B plus time waiting for a green card that each H-1B is worth about $100,000 to the employer. That is why the allotment of 65,000 H-1Bs went so fast. There is no shortage of Americans.


The problem of students not getting degrees in math, science, and engineering is used as a subterfuge to get more H-1Bs. Those same employers who are screaming that we don't have enough kids who are good at math and science are laying off tons of Americans who were good at math and science when they were kids. Our kids see this and decline to major in something that is unlikely to produce a job. There is no shortage of well trained native born American techies.

It is all about replacing Americans with cheap labor.

There is no shortage of scientists, engineers, computer programmers, software engineers, software architects, teachers, or nurses in the USA. Fewer US citizens go to grad school because the F and H-1B visa programs have created incentives against doing so. It costs more for a US citizen to attend graduate school than he will make in increased earnings over the rest of his life from doing so. The NSF expected this result in the 1980s when they pushed for more student and H-1B visas.

The H-1B visa does not require the applicant to have a college degree, hundreds without a high school diploma are approved every year. Nor does the H-1B require high skills.

There is a requirement to pay "prevailing wage" but that is a legal term that need not be the actually prevailing market compensation for a person with those particular skills doing that kind of work.

The vast majority of H-1B visas go to those in the lower-skilled tier, and the statistical distribution of compensation is skewed markedly to the low side.

It's kind of ironic for a US citizen to graduate from Stanford or MIT or Georgia Tech or CalPoly or Virginia Tech or Penn State or CMU or UM or FSU or UT or UC or OSU, or nurse dozens of PhD candidates through their work, and not be able to land steady employment because of the excess of body shopping, including the cross-border body shopping facilitated by the excess of H-1B visas.

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